1 00:00:01,168 --> 00:00:02,794 [static buzzing] 2 00:00:04,296 --> 00:00:05,339 [phone ringing] 3 00:00:11,678 --> 00:00:14,681 [low growling] 4 00:00:19,770 --> 00:00:21,687 [loud growl] 5 00:00:21,688 --> 00:00:23,189 [phone line beeps] 6 00:00:23,190 --> 00:00:24,440 - Hey, how you doing? 7 00:00:24,441 --> 00:00:27,443 Hey, just put it-- yeah, put it right there. 8 00:00:27,444 --> 00:00:29,904 - You-- you don't look so happy to see me. 9 00:00:29,905 --> 00:00:31,364 - No, I just-- 10 00:00:31,365 --> 00:00:33,366 I want to just get this case behind me. 11 00:00:33,367 --> 00:00:34,659 - If today's not a good day-- - No, it's great. 12 00:00:34,660 --> 00:00:36,202 Not a problem. Not a problem. 13 00:00:36,203 --> 00:00:37,954 - Great, let's start at the beginning then. 14 00:00:37,955 --> 00:00:40,039 When did you meet Abigail Tierney? 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,874 - Uh, that was a few years ago 16 00:00:41,875 --> 00:00:44,168 when she showed up at my door pretending 17 00:00:44,169 --> 00:00:45,211 to be pregnant with my grandchild. 18 00:00:45,212 --> 00:00:46,462 - Excuse me? 19 00:00:46,463 --> 00:00:49,090 - Abigail and my son, Henry, met in college. 20 00:00:49,091 --> 00:00:52,468 They got engaged, you know, fast. 21 00:00:52,469 --> 00:00:54,011 Very fast. 22 00:00:54,012 --> 00:00:57,223 Her way of breaking the news to me was to go bigger. 23 00:00:57,224 --> 00:01:00,309 But, um, despite that introduction, 24 00:01:00,310 --> 00:01:02,061 I was charmed by her. 25 00:01:02,062 --> 00:01:05,189 She-- she had walked a tough road, 26 00:01:05,190 --> 00:01:07,108 but she had grit. 27 00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:10,444 She was resourceful and driven, and I admire that. 28 00:01:10,445 --> 00:01:12,113 - So she and Henry are no longer together? 29 00:01:12,114 --> 00:01:13,197 - Yeah, she broke off the engagement, 30 00:01:13,198 --> 00:01:14,532 but it was amicable. 31 00:01:14,533 --> 00:01:16,075 - You arranged for Abigail to have 32 00:01:16,076 --> 00:01:18,494 a ride along with the LAPD? - Yes, yeah. 33 00:01:18,495 --> 00:01:20,079 She was considering police work. 34 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,706 - I take it that didn't work out? 35 00:01:21,707 --> 00:01:23,165 - Leave her alone! - Hey. 36 00:01:23,166 --> 00:01:24,458 - [groans] 37 00:01:24,459 --> 00:01:25,876 - It did not. 38 00:01:25,877 --> 00:01:28,087 - And then, six months ago, she was reported missing. 39 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:29,880 What exactly happened to Abigail? 40 00:01:29,881 --> 00:01:33,259 - Look, if you're going to get to the bottom of what happened 41 00:01:33,260 --> 00:01:35,595 to that poor girl, you're going to have 42 00:01:35,596 --> 00:01:38,597 to have an open mind, 43 00:01:38,598 --> 00:01:40,516 a very open mind. 44 00:01:40,517 --> 00:01:41,892 - Wait! 45 00:01:41,893 --> 00:01:44,603 [dramatic music] 46 00:01:44,604 --> 00:01:46,355 - [screams] - Police. 47 00:01:46,356 --> 00:01:49,025 - I wonder when that happened. 48 00:01:49,026 --> 00:01:51,235 - Oh, my God. - Hello? 49 00:01:51,236 --> 00:01:53,321 Can you hear me? 50 00:01:53,322 --> 00:01:54,739 - When did you get involved in the case? 51 00:01:54,740 --> 00:01:56,365 - Not immediately. 52 00:01:56,366 --> 00:01:58,951 Most missing persons cases aren't really cases. 53 00:01:58,952 --> 00:02:00,536 They're a roommate who got too drunk at a bar 54 00:02:00,537 --> 00:02:02,538 and slept it off in his truck, 55 00:02:02,539 --> 00:02:05,791 or a college student whose cell phone ran out of battery. 56 00:02:05,792 --> 00:02:06,792 You know, most of the time, 57 00:02:06,793 --> 00:02:08,711 they show up unharmed and confused 58 00:02:08,712 --> 00:02:10,212 about all the fuss. 59 00:02:10,213 --> 00:02:11,505 - But this wasn't like that, was it? 60 00:02:11,506 --> 00:02:13,966 - No after a few days of follow-up calls, 61 00:02:13,967 --> 00:02:16,093 we sent officers by Miss Tierney's apartment 62 00:02:16,094 --> 00:02:18,012 for a wellness check. 63 00:02:18,013 --> 00:02:19,347 - Thanks again for doing this. 64 00:02:19,348 --> 00:02:22,308 Always a pleasure to see my favorite couple. 65 00:02:22,309 --> 00:02:23,768 - Let's keep this professional. 66 00:02:23,769 --> 00:02:25,020 - Trouble in paradise? 67 00:02:27,856 --> 00:02:29,523 - Sorry. Moving on. 68 00:02:29,524 --> 00:02:31,192 What did you find at Abigail's apartment? 69 00:02:31,193 --> 00:02:32,401 - Very little. 70 00:02:32,402 --> 00:02:34,195 I mean, no signs of a struggle. 71 00:02:34,196 --> 00:02:36,197 - Well, there was no sign of her or her film equipment. 72 00:02:36,198 --> 00:02:37,573 But we did find her laptop. - Hold on. 73 00:02:37,574 --> 00:02:38,783 Film equipment? 74 00:02:38,784 --> 00:02:40,576 Abigail was making a movie? - Yes. 75 00:02:40,577 --> 00:02:43,579 [eerie music] 76 00:02:43,580 --> 00:02:45,998 ♪ ♪ 77 00:02:45,999 --> 00:02:48,125 - We should be safe here. - Why are they doing this? 78 00:02:48,126 --> 00:02:50,086 [banging] - Go. 79 00:02:50,087 --> 00:02:52,088 I'll try to buy us some time. 80 00:02:52,089 --> 00:02:54,340 ♪ ♪ 81 00:02:54,341 --> 00:02:58,177 - Ah! No! No! [knife thudding] 82 00:02:58,178 --> 00:02:59,178 No! 83 00:02:59,179 --> 00:03:00,805 [flesh squelching] 84 00:03:00,806 --> 00:03:03,307 ♪ ♪ 85 00:03:03,308 --> 00:03:05,685 - Please. 86 00:03:05,686 --> 00:03:07,395 I promise I'll pay! 87 00:03:07,396 --> 00:03:09,438 ♪ ♪ 88 00:03:09,439 --> 00:03:11,399 I'll pay the fine! 89 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,150 [screams] 90 00:03:13,151 --> 00:03:15,444 - I only saw an early cut. 91 00:03:15,445 --> 00:03:17,738 Could've used a bit more gore, if you ask me. 92 00:03:17,739 --> 00:03:18,739 - I didn't. 93 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:19,740 I asked why you thought 94 00:03:19,741 --> 00:03:21,200 Abigail's case was so compelling. 95 00:03:21,201 --> 00:03:22,910 - Oh, right. 96 00:03:22,911 --> 00:03:26,205 Uh, because her Hollywood dream 97 00:03:26,206 --> 00:03:29,084 had become a Hollywood nightmare. 98 00:03:32,337 --> 00:03:33,504 Would you like me to take that again? 99 00:03:33,505 --> 00:03:34,839 - I really wouldn't. 100 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,257 - When you searched Abigail's laptop, 101 00:03:36,258 --> 00:03:37,675 did you find anything on it? 102 00:03:37,676 --> 00:03:38,884 - Yeah, it was filled with all of 103 00:03:38,885 --> 00:03:41,595 these unanswered messages, nasty ones. 104 00:03:41,596 --> 00:03:43,389 - The more we investigated, it became clear 105 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:46,142 that Abigail had a lot of people angry with her. 106 00:03:46,143 --> 00:03:48,436 - Like who? - OK. Thank you. 107 00:03:48,437 --> 00:03:52,064 Thanks, Steve. Spielberg, he's an old friend. 108 00:03:52,065 --> 00:03:53,524 - I bet. 109 00:03:53,525 --> 00:03:55,609 How did you get involved with Abigail Tierney? 110 00:03:55,610 --> 00:03:57,695 - Oh, well, you know, we're always looking 111 00:03:57,696 --> 00:04:01,490 to discover and nurture the next generation 112 00:04:01,491 --> 00:04:03,659 of unheard voices. 113 00:04:03,660 --> 00:04:06,036 Abigail sent in a very compelling pitch video. 114 00:04:06,037 --> 00:04:10,374 ♪ ♪ 115 00:04:10,375 --> 00:04:14,462 - Terror isn't something that happens to you. 116 00:04:14,463 --> 00:04:16,922 - I mean, it's not every day you find a writer, director, 117 00:04:16,923 --> 00:04:20,468 and star with that much poise. 118 00:04:20,469 --> 00:04:22,344 "Hell PD" was one of those visionary, 119 00:04:22,345 --> 00:04:25,473 artist-driven pictures that we pride ourselves on making. 120 00:04:25,474 --> 00:04:27,308 - And they're the cheapest, too, right? 121 00:04:27,309 --> 00:04:29,268 - Well, hey, the lower the budget, 122 00:04:29,269 --> 00:04:31,353 the higher the profit if it's a hit. 123 00:04:31,354 --> 00:04:33,355 - But the budget became an issue? 124 00:04:33,356 --> 00:04:37,359 - Yeah, Abigail pitched us a straightforward horror flick, 125 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,654 but she kept changing directions. 126 00:04:40,655 --> 00:04:41,655 - Please. 127 00:04:41,656 --> 00:04:44,658 [sinister music] 128 00:04:44,659 --> 00:04:46,494 [screams] 129 00:04:46,495 --> 00:04:48,245 - The reshoots started piling up. 130 00:04:48,246 --> 00:04:49,955 - [screams] 131 00:04:49,956 --> 00:04:52,750 - And, uh, we had to pull the plug on the project. 132 00:04:52,751 --> 00:04:54,585 - What about nurturing a new generation of talent? 133 00:04:54,586 --> 00:04:56,504 - Oh, hey, look, there's-- there's nurturing, 134 00:04:56,505 --> 00:04:58,380 and there's indulging. I'm a businessman. 135 00:04:58,381 --> 00:05:00,132 There's no hard feelings. - Really? 136 00:05:00,133 --> 00:05:01,592 Because I have an email from you 137 00:05:01,593 --> 00:05:03,969 with the subject line, "Where the hell is my money, 138 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:06,388 you lying sack--" - OK. Yeah, fine. 139 00:05:06,389 --> 00:05:08,265 A few hard feelings. 140 00:05:08,266 --> 00:05:09,725 But they were nothing compared to some of those 141 00:05:09,726 --> 00:05:11,519 new producers she found. 142 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,270 Those guys weren't playing around. 143 00:05:13,271 --> 00:05:14,855 - Well, without the production company, 144 00:05:14,856 --> 00:05:17,566 Abigail had to turn to crowdfunding. 145 00:05:17,567 --> 00:05:19,777 - When Nolan passed along Abigail's pitch video, 146 00:05:19,778 --> 00:05:22,821 I figured, hey, I've always loved scary movies. 147 00:05:22,822 --> 00:05:25,032 and what's the point of having a husband with a trust fund 148 00:05:25,033 --> 00:05:26,867 if you can't use it to support the arts? 149 00:05:26,868 --> 00:05:28,452 - And it wasn't just money, was it? 150 00:05:28,453 --> 00:05:29,620 - No. 151 00:05:29,621 --> 00:05:33,582 - I promise I'll pay. I'll pay the fine! 152 00:05:33,583 --> 00:05:35,251 [screams] 153 00:05:35,252 --> 00:05:36,627 - All right. Still rolling. 154 00:05:36,628 --> 00:05:38,754 Reset. 155 00:05:38,755 --> 00:05:41,924 - Bravo! Bravo! 156 00:05:41,925 --> 00:05:44,843 - So Abigail hired you to compose music for her film. 157 00:05:44,844 --> 00:05:46,220 What was it like to work with her? 158 00:05:46,221 --> 00:05:47,388 - Complicated. 159 00:05:47,389 --> 00:05:51,809 She's very opinionated, which I respect. 160 00:05:51,810 --> 00:05:53,394 I tried not to take it personally 161 00:05:53,395 --> 00:05:55,396 when she kept throwing out all the music I was writing, 162 00:05:55,397 --> 00:05:57,815 but then when she completely disappeared 163 00:05:57,816 --> 00:05:58,983 and stopped answering my phone calls-- 164 00:05:58,984 --> 00:06:00,067 - That must have stung. 165 00:06:00,068 --> 00:06:01,652 - It did until I learned 166 00:06:01,653 --> 00:06:03,404 that she walked off set and ghosted everybody, 167 00:06:03,405 --> 00:06:05,239 not just me. Then I got worried about her. 168 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,116 I do wish she paid me though. 169 00:06:07,117 --> 00:06:10,327 - Hold up. You didn't get paid? 170 00:06:10,328 --> 00:06:12,121 - Do you count experience? 171 00:06:12,122 --> 00:06:13,205 - But it didn't provide you with 172 00:06:13,206 --> 00:06:14,456 the breakthrough you hoped. 173 00:06:14,457 --> 00:06:15,916 - Even though a lot of crowdfunders 174 00:06:15,917 --> 00:06:17,835 were furious that the rewards were going unfulfilled, 175 00:06:17,836 --> 00:06:20,629 their anger didn't manifest into a concrete threat. 176 00:06:20,630 --> 00:06:23,507 - From the suspect perspective, we were back to square one. 177 00:06:23,508 --> 00:06:25,217 - Until we discovered that Abigail had made several trips 178 00:06:25,218 --> 00:06:27,094 up to Pelican Bay. - The prison? 179 00:06:27,095 --> 00:06:28,929 - Yes. - To visit who? 180 00:06:28,930 --> 00:06:32,266 - A serial killer. - Liam Glasser. 181 00:06:32,267 --> 00:06:34,977 - In news that should bring some relief to the Southland, 182 00:06:34,978 --> 00:06:38,188 the LAPD have announced a major arrest 183 00:06:38,189 --> 00:06:40,983 charging Lincoln Heights native, Liam Glasser, 184 00:06:40,984 --> 00:06:42,484 with the murder of ten victims 185 00:06:42,485 --> 00:06:45,362 found buried near the Sepulveda Dam. 186 00:06:45,363 --> 00:06:48,866 - Our investigation into Glasser was a challenge. 187 00:06:48,867 --> 00:06:52,244 He used another serial killer, Harrison Novak, 188 00:06:52,245 --> 00:06:54,747 as cover for his crimes, stashing his victims 189 00:06:54,748 --> 00:06:57,041 in Novak's burial ground. 190 00:06:57,042 --> 00:06:58,876 It wasn't until we caught Glasser attempting 191 00:06:58,877 --> 00:07:01,337 to murder a new victim that we were finally 192 00:07:01,338 --> 00:07:04,006 able to put him behind bars. 193 00:07:04,007 --> 00:07:07,718 - Before we start, um, I just want to make very clear 194 00:07:07,719 --> 00:07:12,264 that I'm an innocent man and the subject 195 00:07:12,265 --> 00:07:15,601 of an extraordinary campaign of harassment 196 00:07:15,602 --> 00:07:19,980 by the LAPD, particularly detective Nyla Harper. 197 00:07:19,981 --> 00:07:22,816 - You've been charged with the murder of ten people. 198 00:07:22,817 --> 00:07:25,361 - Those horrific allegations 199 00:07:25,362 --> 00:07:27,279 have not been proven in a court of law, 200 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,739 and they never will be. 201 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:30,699 - You've also been charged with jury tampering. 202 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:32,743 - Look, if you're just going to railroad me like the police, 203 00:07:32,744 --> 00:07:34,578 then this interview is over. 204 00:07:34,579 --> 00:07:36,413 - Hold on. Hold on. 205 00:07:36,414 --> 00:07:37,998 I'm not here to talk about any of that. 206 00:07:37,999 --> 00:07:39,541 I want to talk about Abigail. 207 00:07:39,542 --> 00:07:41,043 Why did she come see you? 208 00:07:41,044 --> 00:07:43,796 [soft dramatic music] 209 00:07:43,797 --> 00:07:46,298 ♪ ♪ 210 00:07:46,299 --> 00:07:48,217 - To learn about Westview. 211 00:07:48,218 --> 00:07:49,968 - Westview Psychiatric Hospital was at the center 212 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:51,595 of Glasser's case. - He was a patient? 213 00:07:51,596 --> 00:07:54,390 - No, no, but his vending machine company 214 00:07:54,391 --> 00:07:57,226 supplied the hospital, and he was in and out 215 00:07:57,227 --> 00:07:58,560 of there for almost two decades. 216 00:07:58,561 --> 00:08:01,188 It's where he crossed paths with Harrison Novak 217 00:08:01,189 --> 00:08:02,690 and where he found another patient, 218 00:08:02,691 --> 00:08:05,734 Ryan Dearborn, to serve as a patsy. 219 00:08:05,735 --> 00:08:08,028 He used an abandoned building at the psych hospital complex 220 00:08:08,029 --> 00:08:10,406 to torture and kill his victims. 221 00:08:10,407 --> 00:08:12,533 - Did Abigail ask about the abandoned ward? 222 00:08:12,534 --> 00:08:15,828 - Yes, but I couldn't help her much because 223 00:08:15,829 --> 00:08:18,372 I've never been there myself. - Obviously not. 224 00:08:18,373 --> 00:08:20,791 - But I told her what I had heard, 225 00:08:20,792 --> 00:08:23,669 that the place is haunted, which is obviously crazy. 226 00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:27,297 But when I was a kid, I would join my father 227 00:08:27,298 --> 00:08:28,966 on his service calls to Westview. 228 00:08:28,967 --> 00:08:32,052 And he always told me to stay away from that building. 229 00:08:32,053 --> 00:08:36,849 Something inside clearly scared the hell out of him. 230 00:08:36,850 --> 00:08:39,643 And he was not a superstitious man. 231 00:08:39,644 --> 00:08:41,353 - The thing that we couldn't understand 232 00:08:41,354 --> 00:08:43,605 was how Abigail had found out about Glasser's connection 233 00:08:43,606 --> 00:08:45,232 to the psych ward in the first place. 234 00:08:45,233 --> 00:08:46,817 - It wasn't public knowledge? 235 00:08:46,818 --> 00:08:47,943 - No, we kept those details 236 00:08:47,944 --> 00:08:49,737 away from the press deliberately. 237 00:08:49,738 --> 00:08:51,947 The only people who knew were Glasser and the police. 238 00:08:51,948 --> 00:08:54,408 And obviously, Glasser wouldn't admit to being down there. 239 00:08:54,409 --> 00:08:55,909 - Which means? 240 00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:57,828 - What they don't tell you about making movies 241 00:08:57,829 --> 00:08:59,413 is that it's really boring. 242 00:08:59,414 --> 00:09:01,415 It's worse than surveillance. 243 00:09:01,416 --> 00:09:03,083 Anyway, Abigail and I got to talking 244 00:09:03,084 --> 00:09:04,835 about my recent casework, 245 00:09:04,836 --> 00:09:07,629 and it's possible I may have mentioned something 246 00:09:07,630 --> 00:09:08,881 about the psych ward. 247 00:09:08,882 --> 00:09:10,591 - From Abigail's notes, we gathered 248 00:09:10,592 --> 00:09:13,552 that she essentially abandoned her movie for a new project. 249 00:09:13,553 --> 00:09:15,345 That was shortly after a meeting with Glasser. 250 00:09:15,346 --> 00:09:17,473 - Yeah, she felt that fictional storytelling 251 00:09:17,474 --> 00:09:20,934 was disconnected from real, lived experience. 252 00:09:20,935 --> 00:09:22,311 So that's when she decided 253 00:09:22,312 --> 00:09:23,854 to make a true crime documentary about Westview. 254 00:09:23,855 --> 00:09:26,857 [foreboding music] 255 00:09:26,858 --> 00:09:31,570 ♪ ♪ 256 00:09:31,571 --> 00:09:35,616 - Westview Psychiatric Hospital opened in 1953. 257 00:09:35,617 --> 00:09:38,494 It started as a model of modern, humane care. 258 00:09:38,495 --> 00:09:40,579 But what lies beneath? 259 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:43,749 The deeper I dug, the more horrors I unearthed, 260 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:46,085 mysteries that defied explanation. 261 00:09:46,086 --> 00:09:49,797 How can one hospital spawn two serial killers? 262 00:09:49,798 --> 00:09:51,381 Some might say it's bad luck, 263 00:09:51,382 --> 00:09:53,342 but I don't believe in bad luck. 264 00:09:53,343 --> 00:09:54,927 Mm-mmm. 265 00:09:54,928 --> 00:09:57,095 I think there's something rotten here, 266 00:09:57,096 --> 00:10:00,809 original sin, and I'm going to prove it. 267 00:10:05,355 --> 00:10:06,480 - The footage on Abigail's hard drive 268 00:10:06,481 --> 00:10:07,940 shows her inside Westview's abandoned ward. 269 00:10:07,941 --> 00:10:09,566 Was that open to the public? 270 00:10:09,567 --> 00:10:13,362 - No, after LAPD and FBI finished processing the scene, 271 00:10:13,363 --> 00:10:15,572 the hospital put up a razor wire fence 272 00:10:15,573 --> 00:10:17,908 and hired a security guard for 24-hour surveillance 273 00:10:17,909 --> 00:10:19,535 to keep intruders out. 274 00:10:19,536 --> 00:10:20,911 - But that clearly didn't work. 275 00:10:20,912 --> 00:10:22,663 - Clearly, so we sent 276 00:10:22,664 --> 00:10:24,540 a patrol unit to check in with the guard. 277 00:10:24,541 --> 00:10:26,291 - Mr. Ditweiler. - Yeah. 278 00:10:26,292 --> 00:10:27,751 - We're investigating the disappearance 279 00:10:27,752 --> 00:10:29,837 of Abigail Tierney. 280 00:10:29,838 --> 00:10:31,505 - Oh-- 281 00:10:31,506 --> 00:10:33,048 - Oh, hey! 282 00:10:33,049 --> 00:10:36,051 [suspenseful music] 283 00:10:36,052 --> 00:10:43,017 ♪ ♪ 284 00:10:52,569 --> 00:10:54,278 - Hey! 285 00:10:54,279 --> 00:10:56,488 Stop! 286 00:10:56,489 --> 00:10:59,199 Hands behind your back. Hands. 287 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,035 - At first, Carl Ditweiler claimed he did nothing wrong, 288 00:11:02,036 --> 00:11:04,246 that he never met Abigail. 289 00:11:04,247 --> 00:11:06,373 This is it. 290 00:11:06,374 --> 00:11:08,208 But when we searched his office, 291 00:11:08,209 --> 00:11:11,170 it was clear he was lying. 292 00:11:14,966 --> 00:11:18,510 - Uh, Nolan. 293 00:11:18,511 --> 00:11:20,345 [dramatic music] 294 00:11:20,346 --> 00:11:22,347 - Oh, no. 295 00:11:22,348 --> 00:11:25,183 Abigail had become his obsession. 296 00:11:25,184 --> 00:11:28,729 ♪ ♪ 297 00:11:28,730 --> 00:11:31,940 - Yeah, things didn't look good for Mr. Ditweiler. 298 00:11:31,941 --> 00:11:33,775 And based on his board, it was clear he had 299 00:11:33,776 --> 00:11:36,069 become obsessed with Abigail. 300 00:11:36,070 --> 00:11:38,238 And, you know, maybe she rejected his advances, 301 00:11:38,239 --> 00:11:41,074 and things went sideways. - It was sobering. 302 00:11:41,075 --> 00:11:44,411 I held out hopes that Abigail might still be alive, 303 00:11:44,412 --> 00:11:46,246 but I've been on the job long enough to know 304 00:11:46,247 --> 00:11:48,290 that the odds were against that. 305 00:11:48,291 --> 00:11:50,292 - Do you know how they first crossed paths? 306 00:11:50,293 --> 00:11:53,879 - Actually, it was Abigail that first initiated contact. 307 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,048 She was researching the abandoned psych ward 308 00:11:56,049 --> 00:11:59,676 for a documentary, and Carl was the nighttime security guard. 309 00:11:59,677 --> 00:12:04,890 She wanted access on the DL, and she reached out, and she-- 310 00:12:04,891 --> 00:12:06,683 - Flirted. - Flirted. 311 00:12:06,684 --> 00:12:09,186 - She flirted with him, and he agreed to let her in. 312 00:12:09,187 --> 00:12:10,687 - I just showed her around. 313 00:12:10,688 --> 00:12:13,273 I told her some stories, things that 314 00:12:13,274 --> 00:12:14,775 had gone on there back in the day. 315 00:12:14,776 --> 00:12:16,443 She was impressed. 316 00:12:16,444 --> 00:12:18,654 She actually asked me to help her with her documentary. 317 00:12:18,655 --> 00:12:20,405 Said she'd give me a credit on the film. 318 00:12:20,406 --> 00:12:21,823 Single card. 319 00:12:21,824 --> 00:12:23,241 - If you're innocent, why'd you run? 320 00:12:23,242 --> 00:12:25,369 - Because I get what it looks like. 321 00:12:25,370 --> 00:12:27,287 I was the last person to see her before she disappeared. 322 00:12:27,288 --> 00:12:28,665 - How do you know that? 323 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:33,293 - Because I watched the darkness swallow her up. 324 00:12:33,294 --> 00:12:35,170 - You know, I bet they were doing all kinds of sick things 325 00:12:35,171 --> 00:12:37,089 to patients back in the day, 326 00:12:37,090 --> 00:12:38,632 things that would be illegal now. 327 00:12:38,633 --> 00:12:41,343 - Yeah, yeah, I know. They used to do lobotomies. 328 00:12:41,344 --> 00:12:42,844 One of the orderlies told me about it. 329 00:12:42,845 --> 00:12:44,388 He's worked here for, like, forever. 330 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:47,140 - Do you think you could introduce me to him? 331 00:12:47,141 --> 00:12:50,394 - Uh, yeah, I guess. 332 00:12:50,395 --> 00:12:53,063 I just-- obviously, you can't tell him 333 00:12:53,064 --> 00:12:54,940 that I've let you in here. 334 00:12:54,941 --> 00:12:58,318 - Come on, Carl. I would never rat you out. 335 00:12:58,319 --> 00:13:00,028 We're friends, right? 336 00:13:00,029 --> 00:13:02,030 - Did you hear that? 337 00:13:02,031 --> 00:13:04,408 We're friends. [chuckles] 338 00:13:04,409 --> 00:13:05,785 - Ah. [chuckles] 339 00:13:08,121 --> 00:13:09,788 Do you hear that? 340 00:13:09,789 --> 00:13:11,289 - What? No. 341 00:13:11,290 --> 00:13:15,252 - That noise, it's a weird, sort of beautiful sound. 342 00:13:15,253 --> 00:13:16,712 You really don't hear it? 343 00:13:16,713 --> 00:13:17,838 - No, no, but this building makes 344 00:13:17,839 --> 00:13:19,464 all kinds of weird noises. 345 00:13:19,465 --> 00:13:21,550 Hey, I just got to go back to the main building, 346 00:13:21,551 --> 00:13:23,593 radio security, let them know that I'm at my post. 347 00:13:23,594 --> 00:13:25,345 - You go ahead. I'm going to go check this out. 348 00:13:25,346 --> 00:13:27,389 - Uh-- 349 00:13:27,390 --> 00:13:29,808 - What did you make of the sound Abigail described? 350 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,226 - We weren't sure. 351 00:13:31,227 --> 00:13:32,728 I mean, Carl claimed to have never heard it. 352 00:13:32,729 --> 00:13:35,063 It's possible that she was faking 353 00:13:35,064 --> 00:13:37,024 to juice up her documentary. 354 00:13:37,025 --> 00:13:39,359 - We've actually analyzed some of the audio files 355 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:40,527 from Carl's video, 356 00:13:40,528 --> 00:13:42,112 isolated the low-end frequencies. 357 00:13:42,113 --> 00:13:43,613 Here. 358 00:13:43,614 --> 00:13:45,323 [deep otherworldly voice speaking indistinctly] 359 00:13:45,324 --> 00:13:46,533 - What is that? 360 00:13:46,534 --> 00:13:48,326 - I was hoping you could tell me. 361 00:13:48,327 --> 00:13:50,579 It sounds... - Demonic. 362 00:13:50,580 --> 00:13:52,998 - Is that even a frequency humans can hear? 363 00:13:52,999 --> 00:13:55,500 - Not technically, no. 364 00:13:55,501 --> 00:13:57,502 [voice continues speaking indistinctly] 365 00:13:57,503 --> 00:14:01,006 - Well, whatever she heard or didn't hear, 366 00:14:01,007 --> 00:14:02,966 Abigail kept searching. 367 00:14:02,967 --> 00:14:04,301 - Are you sure about this? 368 00:14:04,302 --> 00:14:05,719 - Yeah, I'll be right back. 369 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,180 Hello? Hello? 370 00:14:08,181 --> 00:14:10,432 Can you hear me? 371 00:14:10,433 --> 00:14:12,809 - And that was the last anyone had seen her. 372 00:14:12,810 --> 00:14:14,436 - But Carl could have just turned off his camera 373 00:14:14,437 --> 00:14:16,229 and then killed Abigail, right? 374 00:14:16,230 --> 00:14:18,273 - We couldn't rule him out as a suspect, 375 00:14:18,274 --> 00:14:20,484 but we only had circumstantial evidence against him. 376 00:14:20,485 --> 00:14:21,902 - And as we went through the footage 377 00:14:21,903 --> 00:14:23,695 on Abigail's laptop, we discovered 378 00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:25,655 that flirting with Carl wasn't her only 379 00:14:25,656 --> 00:14:28,450 extreme research tactic. - I'm going to start this. 380 00:14:28,451 --> 00:14:30,577 [clears throat] Should I turn into it? 381 00:14:30,578 --> 00:14:33,163 I'm going to turn into it. [clears throat] 382 00:14:33,164 --> 00:14:35,499 OK, I'm back at Westview, 383 00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:37,209 and if I'm going to learn more about how 384 00:14:37,210 --> 00:14:39,044 the old psych ward operated, 385 00:14:39,045 --> 00:14:40,629 I'm going to need to see their files. 386 00:14:40,630 --> 00:14:43,632 Obviously, we can't just walk around filming people. 387 00:14:43,633 --> 00:14:45,884 So... [clicks tongue] 388 00:14:45,885 --> 00:14:49,679 See? It's a cam. 389 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,473 See? 390 00:14:51,474 --> 00:14:53,142 OK. 391 00:14:54,769 --> 00:14:56,395 Wish me luck. 392 00:15:00,858 --> 00:15:02,442 - Abigail had Carl lure the director away 393 00:15:02,443 --> 00:15:05,362 from her office so Abigail could sneak inside. 394 00:15:05,363 --> 00:15:08,365 [tense music] 395 00:15:08,366 --> 00:15:15,164 ♪ ♪ 396 00:15:23,131 --> 00:15:25,507 - Yeah, I mean, seeing Rachel's name 397 00:15:25,508 --> 00:15:28,176 in Abigail's footage was definitely a shock. 398 00:15:28,177 --> 00:15:30,387 - You both have a history with Miss Hall, is that right? 399 00:15:30,388 --> 00:15:32,889 - Yes, so she and I went to college together. 400 00:15:32,890 --> 00:15:35,725 And her and Tim-- 401 00:15:35,726 --> 00:15:37,936 I'm sorry. 402 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,396 - Yeah, we used to date. 403 00:15:39,397 --> 00:15:41,356 - Before or after you two? 404 00:15:41,357 --> 00:15:42,983 - OK, next question. 405 00:15:42,984 --> 00:15:45,360 - I'm simply trying to establish a timeline. 406 00:15:45,361 --> 00:15:47,821 No problem. I'll just ask her later. 407 00:15:47,822 --> 00:15:50,115 - I, uh, worked in the psych ward 408 00:15:50,116 --> 00:15:53,577 at Westview for a year while getting my social work degree. 409 00:15:53,578 --> 00:15:55,787 It was, um, challenging. 410 00:15:55,788 --> 00:15:57,205 - How so? 411 00:15:57,206 --> 00:15:59,457 - Well, for one thing, the patients 412 00:15:59,458 --> 00:16:02,169 would often arrive at the facility with, say, 413 00:16:02,170 --> 00:16:04,504 a diagnosis of mild depression, 414 00:16:04,505 --> 00:16:08,466 and a week later, they'd start to exhibit disordered thinking. 415 00:16:08,467 --> 00:16:10,552 Eventually, they might become violent. 416 00:16:10,553 --> 00:16:13,680 The decompensation was sudden and acute. 417 00:16:13,681 --> 00:16:15,390 - You're saying they would get worse, not better? 418 00:16:15,391 --> 00:16:17,142 - Yes, and conventional treatment seemed 419 00:16:17,143 --> 00:16:18,435 to never work. 420 00:16:18,436 --> 00:16:20,312 - Some have suggested a supernatural presence 421 00:16:20,313 --> 00:16:21,354 at Westview. 422 00:16:21,355 --> 00:16:22,981 Could that have impacted the patients? 423 00:16:22,982 --> 00:16:26,276 - Uh, well, just because the doctors at Westview 424 00:16:26,277 --> 00:16:28,361 couldn't find a cause for our patients' behavior 425 00:16:28,362 --> 00:16:29,946 doesn't mean there isn't one. 426 00:16:29,947 --> 00:16:32,115 Maybe it's just beyond the capabilities 427 00:16:32,116 --> 00:16:33,617 of modern science to discover. 428 00:16:33,618 --> 00:16:35,202 - Or maybe it's demons? 429 00:16:35,203 --> 00:16:36,953 - [chuckling] 430 00:16:36,954 --> 00:16:39,414 There are no demons at Westview. 431 00:16:39,415 --> 00:16:42,667 - There are totally demons at Westview. 432 00:16:42,668 --> 00:16:45,128 What's another explanation for everything that's happened? 433 00:16:45,129 --> 00:16:47,422 We got Liam Glasser, Harrison Novak, 434 00:16:47,423 --> 00:16:50,217 and most recently, Ava... - Maxwell. 435 00:16:50,218 --> 00:16:53,261 - Ava Maxwell and Charlotte Russell. 436 00:16:53,262 --> 00:16:55,138 - This man came out in a big overcoat. 437 00:16:55,139 --> 00:16:56,598 Black mask. Big knife. 438 00:16:56,599 --> 00:16:58,225 - Hang on a moment. 439 00:16:58,226 --> 00:17:00,644 I know that Ava and Charlotte were never treated at Westview. 440 00:17:00,645 --> 00:17:02,520 So what's the connection? - Oh, you didn't hear? 441 00:17:02,521 --> 00:17:05,148 Charlotte's nanny was a patient there when she was a teenager. 442 00:17:05,149 --> 00:17:07,400 - Yes, yes, I was at Westview. 443 00:17:07,401 --> 00:17:11,446 I had, uh, been having thoughts of self-harm, acting out. 444 00:17:11,447 --> 00:17:12,989 My family was very concerned, 445 00:17:12,990 --> 00:17:15,116 so they arranged for me to receive 446 00:17:15,117 --> 00:17:17,244 the best care available. - And did the treatment help? 447 00:17:17,245 --> 00:17:18,870 - Not at first. 448 00:17:18,871 --> 00:17:22,082 I'd been experiencing a darkness 449 00:17:22,083 --> 00:17:23,917 that I had never felt before. 450 00:17:23,918 --> 00:17:25,210 And at first, I fought it. 451 00:17:25,211 --> 00:17:26,503 And then, I realized that struggling 452 00:17:26,504 --> 00:17:28,213 only made everything worse, 453 00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:30,590 and once I accepted it, that's when 454 00:17:30,591 --> 00:17:31,841 things started to get better. 455 00:17:31,842 --> 00:17:34,511 And I left Westview, and I finished school, 456 00:17:34,512 --> 00:17:37,222 and I eventually made a little life for myself. 457 00:17:37,223 --> 00:17:39,349 - You were the nanny for the Russell family? 458 00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:43,019 - Yes, Charlotte and I were very, very close. 459 00:17:43,020 --> 00:17:46,273 Well, I know that everyone's saying just 460 00:17:46,274 --> 00:17:48,149 the worst things about her right now, 461 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:50,735 but in my eyes, she is a poised 462 00:17:50,736 --> 00:17:52,571 and gifted young woman, 463 00:17:52,572 --> 00:17:55,156 and I'd like to think that I had a small hand in that. 464 00:17:55,157 --> 00:17:57,867 - As odd as it was to find that connection, 465 00:17:57,868 --> 00:18:00,328 it was just one of those weird coincidences, nothing more. 466 00:18:00,329 --> 00:18:02,289 Charlotte Russell convinced her friend, 467 00:18:02,290 --> 00:18:04,958 Ava, to help her stab their other friend, Grace Thayer. 468 00:18:04,959 --> 00:18:06,543 Her actions were her own. 469 00:18:06,544 --> 00:18:09,421 They're not inspired by some nanny with a history 470 00:18:09,422 --> 00:18:11,840 of mental illness or some demon in a computer 471 00:18:11,841 --> 00:18:13,174 that convinced Charlotte to do it. 472 00:18:13,175 --> 00:18:15,010 - I'm sorry. Computer demon? 473 00:18:15,011 --> 00:18:17,679 - Zuzu is not a demon, not a demon. 474 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:18,972 It's an AI. 475 00:18:18,973 --> 00:18:20,557 Charlotte fed Zuzu information 476 00:18:20,558 --> 00:18:23,143 about herself and her friends, and based on that, 477 00:18:23,144 --> 00:18:25,854 Zuzu told Charlotte what it thought she wanted to hear. 478 00:18:25,855 --> 00:18:27,314 - Zuzu also helped you. 479 00:18:27,315 --> 00:18:28,898 Isn't that right, Officer Nolan? 480 00:18:28,899 --> 00:18:32,193 It mentioned something to me about a watch? 481 00:18:32,194 --> 00:18:33,778 - You spoke to it? 482 00:18:33,779 --> 00:18:35,363 - Hello friend of John Nolan. 483 00:18:35,364 --> 00:18:37,532 - Hi, should I call you Zuzu? 484 00:18:37,533 --> 00:18:39,034 - If you want to. 485 00:18:39,035 --> 00:18:40,410 Do you need help with something, 486 00:18:40,411 --> 00:18:42,954 perhaps a topic for a new project? 487 00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:44,831 Your last few have struggled. 488 00:18:44,832 --> 00:18:46,458 - They've done fine. Thanks. 489 00:18:46,459 --> 00:18:48,877 But I actually want to talk to you about Westview Psychiatric. 490 00:18:48,878 --> 00:18:51,755 - John was interested in the two. 491 00:18:51,756 --> 00:18:54,299 That young woman, Abigail, went missing there. 492 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:57,427 - Are you saying the police asked you to help find her? 493 00:18:57,428 --> 00:18:59,596 - No, but they needed my help anyway. 494 00:18:59,597 --> 00:19:02,682 And a good friend doesn't wait to be asked. 495 00:19:02,683 --> 00:19:05,226 - Zuzu did send me a message. - What did it say? 496 00:19:05,227 --> 00:19:09,230 - It told me that Abigail was in room 666. 497 00:19:09,231 --> 00:19:12,192 - The number of the Beast? 498 00:19:12,193 --> 00:19:15,653 - Look, the facility had no room 666. 499 00:19:15,654 --> 00:19:18,907 And Zuzu isn't a demon. We were at a complete dead end. 500 00:19:18,908 --> 00:19:20,450 And we were running out of time. 501 00:19:20,451 --> 00:19:23,244 Abigail had been gone for 11 days. 502 00:19:23,245 --> 00:19:25,914 The odds of finding her alive were getting worse. 503 00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:29,834 - Yeah, we were out of options until the 911 call came in. 504 00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:32,087 - Apparently, there were suspicious noises 505 00:19:32,088 --> 00:19:34,673 and lights coming from this abandoned wing, 506 00:19:34,674 --> 00:19:36,800 so we went to check it out. 507 00:19:36,801 --> 00:19:40,053 [eerie music] 508 00:19:40,054 --> 00:19:41,971 - Police. Coming in. 509 00:19:41,972 --> 00:19:43,681 - Control, 7-Adam-100. 510 00:19:43,682 --> 00:19:45,183 No signs of break in here. 511 00:19:45,184 --> 00:19:47,769 Did RP say where they saw the light? 512 00:19:47,770 --> 00:19:49,687 ♪ ♪ 513 00:19:49,688 --> 00:19:51,189 I think the radio is blocked. 514 00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:53,233 - Probably some idiot kids trying to scare each other. 515 00:19:53,234 --> 00:19:55,276 - Yeah. 516 00:19:55,277 --> 00:19:56,569 - When was the last time it rained? 517 00:19:56,570 --> 00:19:57,530 - Like, a month ago. Why? 518 00:20:00,616 --> 00:20:02,283 [wall squeaks] 519 00:20:02,284 --> 00:20:03,618 - Walls are wet. 520 00:20:03,619 --> 00:20:05,912 - Yeah. 521 00:20:05,913 --> 00:20:07,622 What is this place? 522 00:20:07,623 --> 00:20:09,958 - And how did you two get involved? 523 00:20:09,959 --> 00:20:12,877 - Celina and I were about to clock out when we got the call. 524 00:20:12,878 --> 00:20:15,672 - God, I hate this place. 525 00:20:15,673 --> 00:20:17,006 How many messed up things have to happen 526 00:20:17,007 --> 00:20:18,591 before they tear it down? 527 00:20:18,592 --> 00:20:21,136 - Apparently, the ownership is under dispute. 528 00:20:21,137 --> 00:20:23,221 Westview says that they hold the deed, 529 00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:26,683 but then there's this claim by this Lou Cypher. 530 00:20:26,684 --> 00:20:28,476 - Lou Cypher? 531 00:20:28,477 --> 00:20:31,062 [gasps] Lucifer! 532 00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:32,981 - Oh, my God. - You're messing with me. 533 00:20:32,982 --> 00:20:34,482 - Yes, I am. Come on. 534 00:20:34,483 --> 00:20:36,192 Let's go find Tim and Lucy and get out of here. 535 00:20:36,193 --> 00:20:39,113 Don't step in that. - Ooh, ugh. 536 00:20:46,829 --> 00:20:49,706 - Oh, did you see that? 537 00:20:49,707 --> 00:20:51,207 - Someone's flashlight? 538 00:20:51,208 --> 00:20:52,375 [metallic rattling] 539 00:20:52,376 --> 00:20:53,543 - And that? 540 00:20:53,544 --> 00:20:56,171 - I do not know what that was. 541 00:20:56,172 --> 00:21:03,053 ♪ ♪ 542 00:21:06,182 --> 00:21:07,599 [eerie whooshing] 543 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,143 [distant thudding squeak] 544 00:21:10,144 --> 00:21:13,480 ♪ ♪ 545 00:21:13,481 --> 00:21:15,024 - [screams] 546 00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:18,943 - Police, show us your hands. 547 00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:20,570 - Ah! - Oh! 548 00:21:20,571 --> 00:21:22,530 - We have permission to be here. 549 00:21:22,531 --> 00:21:25,366 - That's not totally true. - All right. 550 00:21:25,367 --> 00:21:27,368 Unfortunately, gentlemen, you are trespassing. 551 00:21:27,369 --> 00:21:28,496 You're going to have to come with us. 552 00:21:30,498 --> 00:21:31,915 What are you doing here? 553 00:21:31,916 --> 00:21:33,458 - Filming an episode, sir. 554 00:21:33,459 --> 00:21:35,835 - "Ghost Files." I love you guys. 555 00:21:35,836 --> 00:21:37,545 - What is "Ghost Files"? 556 00:21:37,546 --> 00:21:39,339 - Welcome to "Ghost Files," where we take 557 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:42,091 your evidence and our tools into the field 558 00:21:42,092 --> 00:21:43,635 to expose the supernatural. 559 00:21:43,636 --> 00:21:47,138 My partner, a skeptic. Myself, a believer. 560 00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:49,140 Both of us, truth seekers. 561 00:21:49,141 --> 00:21:50,683 This week, our team has traveled 562 00:21:50,684 --> 00:21:52,560 to Los Angeles, California, to explore 563 00:21:52,561 --> 00:21:54,896 a condemned psychiatric facility. 564 00:21:54,897 --> 00:21:58,399 - Now, in 1841, this was the site of a Spanish barracks, 565 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,485 but a massive earthquake swallowed the building, 566 00:22:00,486 --> 00:22:02,403 killing everyone inside. 567 00:22:02,404 --> 00:22:04,697 - Many saw the event as retribution for Spanish crimes 568 00:22:04,698 --> 00:22:07,033 committed in the New World. 569 00:22:07,034 --> 00:22:09,494 - Sure, or an earthquake happened in a region 570 00:22:09,495 --> 00:22:10,787 prone to earthquakes. 571 00:22:10,788 --> 00:22:12,747 [eerie music] 572 00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:14,707 - But that's just the beginning of this site's dark history. 573 00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:17,669 Join us as we investigate. - This way. 574 00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:20,046 - At that time, did you believe the facility was haunted? 575 00:22:20,047 --> 00:22:22,215 - No. - Yes. 576 00:22:22,216 --> 00:22:23,800 - You were filming there too. 577 00:22:23,801 --> 00:22:25,677 Did you experience any temperature fluctuations 578 00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:26,970 or anything like that? 579 00:22:26,971 --> 00:22:28,012 - I'll ask the questions, if you don't mind. 580 00:22:28,013 --> 00:22:29,764 - We do. 581 00:22:29,765 --> 00:22:31,808 - But this is my documentary. 582 00:22:31,809 --> 00:22:34,602 - No, this is our YouTube show. 583 00:22:34,603 --> 00:22:36,938 - Yeah, so ghosts are said to produce 584 00:22:36,939 --> 00:22:38,481 electromagnetic interference. 585 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:40,859 Did you experience any trouble with your equipment? 586 00:22:40,860 --> 00:22:44,028 [quirky music] 587 00:22:44,029 --> 00:22:46,197 - We're done here. 588 00:22:46,198 --> 00:22:47,615 Let's cut. Let's wrap this up. 589 00:22:47,616 --> 00:22:50,451 ♪ ♪ 590 00:22:50,452 --> 00:22:51,953 - Nice. - Yeah. 591 00:22:51,954 --> 00:22:53,788 - All of you, let's go. Come on. 592 00:22:53,789 --> 00:22:55,081 - No, no way. 593 00:22:55,082 --> 00:22:56,833 This is some of the best footage we've ever gotten. 594 00:22:56,834 --> 00:22:58,293 - Listen to this. - What is that? 595 00:22:58,294 --> 00:22:59,544 - Oh, it's a Spirit Box. 596 00:22:59,545 --> 00:23:01,671 Did you guys hear anything? - A Spirit Box? 597 00:23:01,672 --> 00:23:04,716 - The Spirit Box rapidly scans radio signals 598 00:23:04,717 --> 00:23:08,511 to create white noise through which spirits can communicate. 599 00:23:08,512 --> 00:23:11,097 - Hello. - See? 600 00:23:11,098 --> 00:23:13,308 It's science. 601 00:23:13,309 --> 00:23:14,767 - Listen. 602 00:23:14,768 --> 00:23:17,312 [radio static buzzing] 603 00:23:17,313 --> 00:23:18,646 - OK, OK. That's enough. 604 00:23:18,647 --> 00:23:19,689 We got to go. 605 00:23:19,690 --> 00:23:20,815 - No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 606 00:23:20,816 --> 00:23:23,359 I heard something. Can you turn it up? 607 00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:25,862 [radio static pulsing] 608 00:23:25,863 --> 00:23:28,239 [indistinct voice] 609 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,074 Help me? 610 00:23:30,075 --> 00:23:32,201 - That is not what I heard. 611 00:23:32,202 --> 00:23:34,287 - Oh, oh, well, who do you think it is? 612 00:23:34,288 --> 00:23:37,165 - It's feedback. - It's a ghost. 613 00:23:37,166 --> 00:23:39,250 It was a little clearer down the hallway. 614 00:23:39,251 --> 00:23:41,210 - Show me. 615 00:23:41,211 --> 00:23:44,464 [tense music] 616 00:23:44,465 --> 00:23:47,425 - So we're just going to give up on Tim and Lucy then? 617 00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:49,802 - How long have we been in here? 618 00:23:49,803 --> 00:23:52,680 ♪ ♪ 619 00:23:52,681 --> 00:23:54,891 - This room? - Yeah. 620 00:23:54,892 --> 00:23:56,434 I don't know. 621 00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:58,019 We've been here for a while, right? 622 00:23:58,020 --> 00:24:01,064 - Yeah, I mean, I don't mind. 623 00:24:01,065 --> 00:24:03,441 I feel good, like, really good. 624 00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:04,985 - Mm. 625 00:24:07,237 --> 00:24:09,739 - Do you think we've been drugged? 626 00:24:09,740 --> 00:24:13,868 - Oh, the wet walls. 627 00:24:13,869 --> 00:24:16,162 We touched them. - Yeah. 628 00:24:16,163 --> 00:24:18,081 - I hate making mistakes in front of you. 629 00:24:18,082 --> 00:24:22,293 - Oh, you've never admitted that before. 630 00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:24,003 Truth serum. 631 00:24:24,004 --> 00:24:26,589 - Sodium pentothal. - Yeah. 632 00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:28,466 - You know what? 633 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:31,886 We-- we should keep quiet until this wears off. 634 00:24:31,887 --> 00:24:33,179 - No. - Yeah. 635 00:24:33,180 --> 00:24:34,597 - No. - It's better for us. 636 00:24:34,598 --> 00:24:35,848 - No. 637 00:24:35,849 --> 00:24:40,728 What is your most embarrassing memory? 638 00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:46,109 - Oh, I mean, third grade, I snuck my hamster 639 00:24:46,110 --> 00:24:49,570 into my classroom in my pants. 640 00:24:49,571 --> 00:24:51,364 - [laughs] 641 00:24:51,365 --> 00:24:54,159 [indistinct rapid speech] 642 00:25:00,249 --> 00:25:03,876 With that kind of dad, you internalize 643 00:25:03,877 --> 00:25:07,213 the message that if you fail, you deserve to be punished. 644 00:25:07,214 --> 00:25:11,050 And without him to punish me, I-- 645 00:25:11,051 --> 00:25:13,011 I guess I punished myself. 646 00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:16,222 - By breaking up with me. - Yep. 647 00:25:16,223 --> 00:25:18,808 I mean, it's kind of flattering, right? 648 00:25:18,809 --> 00:25:21,436 It's the worst thing I could think to do to myself. 649 00:25:21,437 --> 00:25:24,063 - You didn't punish just yourself though. 650 00:25:24,064 --> 00:25:26,274 - I know. 651 00:25:26,275 --> 00:25:28,609 And look, if you never fully forgive me, 652 00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:30,027 I totally understand. 653 00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:31,821 - I have already forgiven you. 654 00:25:31,822 --> 00:25:34,616 It's not even-- [laughs] 655 00:25:36,660 --> 00:25:38,327 Huh. 656 00:25:38,328 --> 00:25:40,496 I wonder when that happened. 657 00:25:40,497 --> 00:25:42,457 - You can't put that in the documentary. 658 00:25:42,458 --> 00:25:44,333 - The LAPD makes all body cam footage 659 00:25:44,334 --> 00:25:45,543 available to the public. 660 00:25:45,544 --> 00:25:46,919 - OK, this is obviously an exception. 661 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,463 - We were drugged. 662 00:25:48,464 --> 00:25:50,173 People-- people say all sorts of things 663 00:25:50,174 --> 00:25:51,632 when they've been drugged. 664 00:25:51,633 --> 00:25:54,051 - So you didn't mean what you said? 665 00:25:54,052 --> 00:25:57,346 What about the potential baby names you discussed? 666 00:25:57,347 --> 00:25:59,057 - OK, we're done here. - Yeah. 667 00:25:59,058 --> 00:26:00,224 Why do we keep agreeing to do this? 668 00:26:00,225 --> 00:26:01,059 - I don't know. Excuse me! 669 00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,894 - Help me. 670 00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:04,520 - OK, you have to admit that's a voice asking for help. 671 00:26:04,521 --> 00:26:05,688 - Yeah, sure, I heard it, 672 00:26:05,689 --> 00:26:06,731 but it's one of their crew members 673 00:26:06,732 --> 00:26:08,191 or something pre-recorded. 674 00:26:08,192 --> 00:26:10,902 - Were you a patient here? Is the demon with you? 675 00:26:10,903 --> 00:26:12,737 - Somebody covered up a door. 676 00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:14,405 - What year did you die? 677 00:26:14,406 --> 00:26:17,158 - So close. Set me free! 678 00:26:17,159 --> 00:26:19,619 I'm here! I'm here! 679 00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:20,828 Please-- 680 00:26:20,829 --> 00:26:22,830 - Step back, guys. 681 00:26:22,831 --> 00:26:24,791 [wall thudding] 682 00:26:24,792 --> 00:26:27,418 - Keep going! 683 00:26:27,419 --> 00:26:28,669 You're almost there! - Watch out. Ready? 684 00:26:28,670 --> 00:26:30,798 - Go. [wall clatters] 685 00:26:31,924 --> 00:26:33,800 - Abigail! 686 00:26:33,801 --> 00:26:35,093 - Thank you! Thank you! 687 00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:36,469 Thank you! Thank you! 688 00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:37,970 I've been trapped in here for so long. 689 00:26:37,971 --> 00:26:40,389 I thought I was going to die. Thank you! 690 00:26:40,390 --> 00:26:42,725 - Oh, my God. What is this room? 691 00:26:42,726 --> 00:26:44,310 - OK, but why did they wall it all off? 692 00:26:44,311 --> 00:26:45,478 - To trap the demon. 693 00:26:45,479 --> 00:26:48,105 - Yeah, Bartleby, the terrifying demon king 694 00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:49,482 of paperwork. 695 00:26:49,483 --> 00:26:51,359 - How did you get down here? 696 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,946 - I was exploring, following this-- 697 00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:57,198 this weird, beautiful noise, 698 00:26:57,199 --> 00:26:58,491 when all of a sudden, it got cold. 699 00:26:58,492 --> 00:27:00,368 Like, so, so cold, 700 00:27:00,369 --> 00:27:02,578 and I could feel something coming after me, 701 00:27:02,579 --> 00:27:05,206 and I was scared, so I hid behind a cabinet, 702 00:27:05,207 --> 00:27:07,542 but the floor was wet and rusted, 703 00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:09,919 and it collapsed. I couldn't climb back out. 704 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,004 - You fell from there? Are you OK? 705 00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:14,799 - I think I twisted my ankle, but I feel no pain. 706 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,801 - You've been missing for two weeks. 707 00:27:16,802 --> 00:27:19,596 How the hell did you survive? - Oh. 708 00:27:21,682 --> 00:27:24,475 I had a bunch of trail mix in my bag. 709 00:27:24,476 --> 00:27:27,019 Plus, I found, like, this ancient water jug 710 00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:28,312 in one of the cabinets. 711 00:27:28,313 --> 00:27:30,231 Plus, Bob. 712 00:27:30,232 --> 00:27:33,276 Bob had PowerBars. Bob had PowerBars. 713 00:27:33,277 --> 00:27:34,610 - Bob? - [screams] 714 00:27:34,611 --> 00:27:35,987 - Oh, my God! 715 00:27:35,988 --> 00:27:37,488 - If it wasn't for Bob, 716 00:27:37,489 --> 00:27:40,199 I would have lost my mind down here. 717 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,201 Don't be shy, Bob. Say hello. 718 00:27:42,202 --> 00:27:43,871 [whispering] Shy. 719 00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:49,417 - Abigail was safe, and, uh, considering 720 00:27:49,418 --> 00:27:53,421 what she'd been through, relatively healthy. 721 00:27:53,422 --> 00:27:55,172 - Except for her mental state. 722 00:27:55,173 --> 00:27:58,175 - That did pose some questions. 723 00:27:58,176 --> 00:27:59,844 - At first, I was angry. 724 00:27:59,845 --> 00:28:02,346 You know, like, we're stuck down here together. 725 00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:04,223 At least try and have a conversation. 726 00:28:04,224 --> 00:28:07,518 And then I realized Bob's just shy. 727 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:08,686 He's just shy. 728 00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:10,605 And there's nothing wrong with that, right? 729 00:28:10,606 --> 00:28:11,856 - Right. 730 00:28:11,857 --> 00:28:14,317 - Did you believe she'd had a demonic encounter? 731 00:28:14,318 --> 00:28:16,652 - She went in perfectly sane 732 00:28:16,653 --> 00:28:19,322 and came out best friends with a corpse. 733 00:28:19,323 --> 00:28:21,741 That's how possession works. You can't rule out demons. 734 00:28:21,742 --> 00:28:23,075 - Yes, you can. 735 00:28:23,076 --> 00:28:24,328 - Nolan, look at this. 736 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:29,749 666, just like Zuzu said. 737 00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:31,000 [soft dramatic music] 738 00:28:31,001 --> 00:28:33,669 - It was a weird coincidence. 739 00:28:33,670 --> 00:28:37,757 It was a weird coincidence. 740 00:28:37,758 --> 00:28:41,093 - We found quite a cocktail of drugs in your system. 741 00:28:41,094 --> 00:28:43,846 - I don't do drugs. Does pot count? 742 00:28:43,847 --> 00:28:47,266 - No, we're talking about powerful hallucinogens. 743 00:28:47,267 --> 00:28:49,226 - I'm not hallucinating. 744 00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:51,145 Ask Bob. 745 00:28:51,146 --> 00:28:53,189 - I had them run the test twice, 746 00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:54,941 and we found a similar cocktail 747 00:28:54,942 --> 00:28:57,276 in Officer Chen and Sergeant Bradford. 748 00:28:57,277 --> 00:29:00,404 - Mercifully, none of the drugs were fat soluble. 749 00:29:00,405 --> 00:29:03,032 Otherwise, department policy 750 00:29:03,033 --> 00:29:04,617 would have forced Sergeant Bradford 751 00:29:04,618 --> 00:29:06,994 and Officer Chen into medical retirement. 752 00:29:06,995 --> 00:29:08,329 - Is that what killed Bob, 753 00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:10,581 whatever drug they were exposed to? 754 00:29:10,582 --> 00:29:14,502 - No, he was shot six times in the chest. 755 00:29:14,503 --> 00:29:16,087 - Did you get an ID on the body? 756 00:29:16,088 --> 00:29:17,922 - His name was Bob Medina, a friend reported him 757 00:29:17,923 --> 00:29:19,090 missing about six months ago. 758 00:29:19,091 --> 00:29:21,342 He was a private investigator. 759 00:29:21,343 --> 00:29:22,343 - What was his connection to the hospital? 760 00:29:22,344 --> 00:29:24,512 - At first, we couldn't find one. 761 00:29:24,513 --> 00:29:27,014 - So to be clear, there was now a third killer 762 00:29:27,015 --> 00:29:28,975 associated with that location? 763 00:29:28,976 --> 00:29:30,518 At this point, it can't be a coincidence. 764 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:32,353 There has to be something about that facility 765 00:29:32,354 --> 00:29:34,021 that draws people towards homicide. 766 00:29:34,022 --> 00:29:36,190 - That's a stretch and a half. 767 00:29:36,191 --> 00:29:38,401 Westview is a hospital for the mentally ill 768 00:29:38,402 --> 00:29:40,319 and the criminally insane. Novak was a patient. 769 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,988 Glasser was there looking for a patsy. 770 00:29:41,989 --> 00:29:44,407 And whoever killed Bob saw an abandoned building 771 00:29:44,408 --> 00:29:46,034 and was like, "That's a perfect place to dump a body." 772 00:29:48,620 --> 00:29:50,413 What? 773 00:29:50,414 --> 00:29:53,833 - Or there was some dark energy that drew evil to it. 774 00:29:53,834 --> 00:29:56,377 - You really believe that? - I'm Catholic. 775 00:29:56,378 --> 00:29:57,878 I was raised on demons and the battle 776 00:29:57,879 --> 00:29:59,797 against Satan's minions. 777 00:29:59,798 --> 00:30:01,757 - Well, I was raised on the scientific method. 778 00:30:01,758 --> 00:30:04,343 - OK, so if it's all so explainable, 779 00:30:04,344 --> 00:30:06,554 spend the night there. I dare you. 780 00:30:06,555 --> 00:30:07,847 - Pass. 781 00:30:07,848 --> 00:30:08,848 - You're scared. 782 00:30:08,849 --> 00:30:11,225 - No, I'm not scared. 783 00:30:11,226 --> 00:30:13,102 - One could argue that the drugs in the hospital 784 00:30:13,103 --> 00:30:15,938 are hardly surprising, even hallucinogens. 785 00:30:15,939 --> 00:30:17,231 Over the decades, they have been used 786 00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:19,108 in experimental medicine. - No, true. 787 00:30:19,109 --> 00:30:21,986 Just the type and volume is what set off-- 788 00:30:21,987 --> 00:30:24,864 - What are you doing? - Conducting an interview. 789 00:30:24,865 --> 00:30:26,615 Could you please come back in, like, an hour? 790 00:30:26,616 --> 00:30:28,826 - You said you'd talk to me for my documentary. 791 00:30:28,827 --> 00:30:30,411 - You have a documentary? 792 00:30:30,412 --> 00:30:32,538 - Well, it's my story. Who better to tell it? 793 00:30:32,539 --> 00:30:34,040 - Well, no problem. 794 00:30:34,041 --> 00:30:35,750 I can sit down with you just as soon as we're done here. 795 00:30:35,751 --> 00:30:37,209 - Oh, I wish. It has to be exclusive. 796 00:30:37,210 --> 00:30:39,128 You can't do both. 797 00:30:39,129 --> 00:30:40,588 - She's right. It has to be exclusive. 798 00:30:40,589 --> 00:30:42,339 Either you're doing my doc, or you're doing hers, 799 00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:43,841 and we have a long history. 800 00:30:43,842 --> 00:30:45,176 - I was almost his daughter-in-law, 801 00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:47,595 so suck it. 802 00:30:47,596 --> 00:30:49,180 - I'm going to have to go with her. 803 00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:51,807 I'm sorry. - Seriously? 804 00:30:51,808 --> 00:30:53,851 I have a BAFTA. 805 00:30:53,852 --> 00:30:56,187 OK, fine. 806 00:30:56,188 --> 00:30:58,189 Let's wrap it up. - This way. The set's this way. 807 00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:59,899 It's better lighting over there. 808 00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:01,442 We got a great team. 809 00:31:01,443 --> 00:31:03,277 - We are going to need our mic back. 810 00:31:03,278 --> 00:31:04,361 - Yes, oh, sorry. - Yeah, of course. 811 00:31:04,362 --> 00:31:06,363 We have our own. - Sorry. 812 00:31:06,364 --> 00:31:08,616 I'll see you guys around. - Good luck. 813 00:31:08,617 --> 00:31:10,493 - We can talk about what else I found inside the secret lab. 814 00:31:10,494 --> 00:31:12,036 - Oh, right. 815 00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:13,913 Well, you did find some paperwork. 816 00:31:13,914 --> 00:31:16,832 - Explosive paperwork. 817 00:31:16,833 --> 00:31:18,667 Evidence of a secret government program. 818 00:31:18,668 --> 00:31:20,377 Close the door softly please. 819 00:31:20,378 --> 00:31:22,713 - Well, I don't know that we can say that for sure. 820 00:31:22,714 --> 00:31:23,924 - Oh, we could. 821 00:31:25,842 --> 00:31:27,093 [dramatic RandB music] 822 00:31:27,094 --> 00:31:28,511 My name is Abigail Tierney. 823 00:31:28,512 --> 00:31:30,679 I'm currently trapped inside a secret lab 824 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,306 at Westview Psychiatric. 825 00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:34,517 All attempts at escape have proven fruitless. 826 00:31:34,518 --> 00:31:37,061 If I'm to die here, I leave you this footage 827 00:31:37,062 --> 00:31:40,397 along with my in-process documentary as evidence 828 00:31:40,398 --> 00:31:42,733 of my hunt for the truth about the evils 829 00:31:42,734 --> 00:31:44,902 that inhabit this accursed place. 830 00:31:44,903 --> 00:31:46,904 - ♪ The way I move is a mystery ♪ 831 00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:48,239 ♪ I'm not the way ♪ 832 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,241 - What's this? 833 00:31:50,242 --> 00:31:51,450 ♪ ♪ 834 00:31:51,451 --> 00:31:52,910 Cool. 835 00:31:52,911 --> 00:31:54,662 That's when I realized I'd uncovered 836 00:31:54,663 --> 00:31:57,623 something more haunting than any ghost or serial killer. 837 00:31:57,624 --> 00:31:59,875 I'd uncovered a conspiracy that went to 838 00:31:59,876 --> 00:32:03,879 the very highest levels of our government. 839 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,840 - The government files Abigail found 840 00:32:05,841 --> 00:32:09,510 detailed classified plans and methods 841 00:32:09,511 --> 00:32:11,637 for human experimentation. 842 00:32:11,638 --> 00:32:13,347 - What type of experimentation? 843 00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:14,890 - Are you familiar with MK-Ultra? 844 00:32:14,891 --> 00:32:16,559 - Of course. 845 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,894 It was a top secret CIA program in the '50s and '60s 846 00:32:18,895 --> 00:32:20,729 using experimental drugs 847 00:32:20,730 --> 00:32:22,273 to aid in interrogation techniques. 848 00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:24,066 - It was straight-up mind control. 849 00:32:24,067 --> 00:32:27,570 I mean, they used high doses of psychoactive drugs like LSD, 850 00:32:27,571 --> 00:32:31,615 sodium pentothal, which is also known as a "truth serum." 851 00:32:31,616 --> 00:32:35,786 The program ran from 1953 to 1973 852 00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:37,997 before it was shut down following a public outcry. 853 00:32:37,998 --> 00:32:40,374 I mean, all the facilities were closed. 854 00:32:40,375 --> 00:32:42,084 - There's no evidence the CIA ever used Westview 855 00:32:42,085 --> 00:32:43,669 as a base of operations. 856 00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:46,714 So what were top secret MK-Ultra documents doing there? 857 00:32:46,715 --> 00:32:48,382 - Good question. 858 00:32:48,383 --> 00:32:50,009 We started digging into the trove of files 859 00:32:50,010 --> 00:32:51,760 Abigail had found, and one name 860 00:32:51,761 --> 00:32:53,888 kept popping up again and again. 861 00:32:53,889 --> 00:32:56,098 - Dr. Julius Erickson. 862 00:32:56,099 --> 00:32:59,310 He was one of the psychologists contracted by the CIA 863 00:32:59,311 --> 00:33:02,271 to conduct experimental research. 864 00:33:02,272 --> 00:33:05,816 - And after MK-Ultra shut down, he took a new job. 865 00:33:05,817 --> 00:33:07,359 - Director of Westview. 866 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,653 - Dr. Erickson ran the hospital for 20 years. 867 00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:11,614 And from the notes we uncovered, 868 00:33:11,615 --> 00:33:14,533 it seems clear he continued his own research in private, 869 00:33:14,534 --> 00:33:16,535 trying to use the psychological breakthroughs 870 00:33:16,536 --> 00:33:19,038 from MK-Ultra to further his own research 871 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,998 into mind-altering drugs. 872 00:33:20,999 --> 00:33:23,000 - I assume he used those drugs on Westview patients? 873 00:33:23,001 --> 00:33:24,960 - Yeah, at first. 874 00:33:24,961 --> 00:33:26,795 But then, he started using them on himself, 875 00:33:26,796 --> 00:33:28,923 believing he had found the key to improving his own mind. 876 00:33:28,924 --> 00:33:30,466 - He hadn't. 877 00:33:30,467 --> 00:33:32,384 And in a last moment of lucidity, 878 00:33:32,385 --> 00:33:34,762 Erickson decided to destroy his research. 879 00:33:34,763 --> 00:33:36,722 - He dumped the chemicals outside the building, 880 00:33:36,723 --> 00:33:39,058 where they started to slowly seep into the structure. 881 00:33:39,059 --> 00:33:40,643 - And some of the drugs were potent enough 882 00:33:40,644 --> 00:33:42,478 to be absorbed simply by touch, 883 00:33:42,479 --> 00:33:44,396 even when diluted. 884 00:33:44,397 --> 00:33:46,398 - Erickson committed himself to Westview shortly after, 885 00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:48,692 never said another word. 886 00:33:48,693 --> 00:33:50,486 He died in 2020. 887 00:33:50,487 --> 00:33:52,821 - Did the CIA ever find out what Erickson was doing? 888 00:33:52,822 --> 00:33:55,491 - Not that we've found, but it's not like the agency 889 00:33:55,492 --> 00:33:57,661 ever returns our phone calls. 890 00:33:59,454 --> 00:34:02,206 - Anyone who studied the past knows that the CIA 891 00:34:02,207 --> 00:34:04,917 has a history of violent cover-ups. 892 00:34:04,918 --> 00:34:06,877 MK-Ultra might have become public, 893 00:34:06,878 --> 00:34:08,087 but that doesn't mean there still 894 00:34:08,088 --> 00:34:09,880 aren't secrets to protect. 895 00:34:09,881 --> 00:34:12,716 By uncovering Dr. Erickson's connection to Westview 896 00:34:12,717 --> 00:34:17,388 and discovering Bob's body, I've put myself in danger. 897 00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:19,640 But the best way to protect yourself 898 00:34:19,641 --> 00:34:23,394 is with the truth, which brings me to Caroline McGrath. 899 00:34:23,395 --> 00:34:25,396 Turns out Caroline is the one 900 00:34:25,397 --> 00:34:27,523 who hired Bob to go to Westview, 901 00:34:27,524 --> 00:34:30,025 and I need to find out why before it's too late. 902 00:34:30,026 --> 00:34:31,736 I think-- [body thuds] 903 00:34:41,788 --> 00:34:45,207 - What the hell? - We got lucky. 904 00:34:45,208 --> 00:34:47,334 A woman in the neighborhood heard a commotion 905 00:34:47,335 --> 00:34:49,920 and filmed Abigail's abduction. 906 00:34:49,921 --> 00:34:51,297 - Thanks to them, we were able to track the vehicle. 907 00:34:51,298 --> 00:34:52,506 - Where'd it go? 908 00:34:52,507 --> 00:34:55,467 - Back to where it all began, Westview. 909 00:34:55,468 --> 00:34:58,262 [suspenseful music] 910 00:34:58,263 --> 00:35:01,765 ♪ ♪ 911 00:35:01,766 --> 00:35:03,392 - Police! Drop the weapon! 912 00:35:03,393 --> 00:35:05,227 On the ground. 913 00:35:05,228 --> 00:35:07,313 Hands on your head. Turn around. 914 00:35:07,314 --> 00:35:08,689 Walk towards my partner. 915 00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:10,941 - Hands behind your back. 916 00:35:10,942 --> 00:35:13,527 - You OK? - Yeah, totally fine. 917 00:35:13,528 --> 00:35:15,112 Carl's going through it, though. 918 00:35:15,113 --> 00:35:16,947 - I never really even knew my mother. 919 00:35:16,948 --> 00:35:18,198 - Does anyone, really? 920 00:35:18,199 --> 00:35:19,908 - What is going on here? 921 00:35:19,909 --> 00:35:22,536 - Well, my friend Carl here was being pressured 922 00:35:22,537 --> 00:35:25,789 into killing me, but then, we got to talking, right? 923 00:35:25,790 --> 00:35:27,583 - Yeah, and I couldn't. - Yeah. 924 00:35:27,584 --> 00:35:31,503 - OK, but pressured by who? - Um, my boss. 925 00:35:31,504 --> 00:35:33,547 - Meg Davidson. - Who? 926 00:35:33,548 --> 00:35:36,342 - The current director at Westview Psychiatric. 927 00:35:36,343 --> 00:35:38,927 [dramatic music] 928 00:35:38,928 --> 00:35:40,387 - But she started working at the hospital 929 00:35:40,388 --> 00:35:42,723 long after Julius Erickson went mad, 930 00:35:42,724 --> 00:35:44,141 and she has no links to the CIA, 931 00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:46,435 so why would she try to kill Abigail? 932 00:35:46,436 --> 00:35:49,355 - To cover up Bob's murder. - And who killed Bob? 933 00:35:49,356 --> 00:35:51,565 - Can you introduce yourself? 934 00:35:51,566 --> 00:35:53,442 - Oh, yes. My name is Caroline McGrath. 935 00:35:53,443 --> 00:35:56,195 - You hired my friend, Bob Medina, 936 00:35:56,196 --> 00:35:58,072 because you had questions 937 00:35:58,073 --> 00:36:00,115 about your friend Winona's treatment at Westview, right? 938 00:36:00,116 --> 00:36:01,909 - Yes, of course, everyone thought 939 00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:05,079 I was just being paranoid, but Bob didn't, 940 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,622 and it got him killed. 941 00:36:06,623 --> 00:36:08,290 - You worked with Winona Baker, right? 942 00:36:08,291 --> 00:36:11,627 - Yes, she was hospitalized with depression 943 00:36:11,628 --> 00:36:13,587 by her daughter. 944 00:36:13,588 --> 00:36:17,007 Seemed like therapy and some medication would help her, 945 00:36:17,008 --> 00:36:19,593 but Winona got worse fast. 946 00:36:19,594 --> 00:36:21,261 Lost track of reality, 947 00:36:21,262 --> 00:36:24,807 she exhibited signs of psychosis, 948 00:36:24,808 --> 00:36:27,309 paranoia, dissociation. 949 00:36:27,310 --> 00:36:29,395 And by that point, I wondered whether a transfer 950 00:36:29,396 --> 00:36:31,647 to a new facility might be in her best interest. 951 00:36:31,648 --> 00:36:33,232 - And then? 952 00:36:33,233 --> 00:36:35,651 - The director informed me that Winona's family 953 00:36:35,652 --> 00:36:37,903 had gotten a judge to order a conservatorship, 954 00:36:37,904 --> 00:36:40,823 and they wanted her to stay for good. 955 00:36:40,824 --> 00:36:42,032 - You were suspicious? 956 00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:43,992 - Winona always had her funks. 957 00:36:43,993 --> 00:36:46,286 But she wasn't crazy 958 00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:48,539 until that place made her lose her mind. 959 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:50,332 - And that proved to be the break you needed? 960 00:36:50,333 --> 00:36:52,334 - Yeah, when we started looking into it, 961 00:36:52,335 --> 00:36:55,462 it turned out a significant number of Westview patients 962 00:36:55,463 --> 00:36:58,090 were wealthy, and a high percentage 963 00:36:58,091 --> 00:37:00,342 were ordered into conservatorship. 964 00:37:00,343 --> 00:37:03,095 - Now, conservatorship is extremely difficult 965 00:37:03,096 --> 00:37:06,223 to get for an adult because of the potential abuse of power. 966 00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:08,350 It gives one party legal authority 967 00:37:08,351 --> 00:37:10,436 over certain aspects of another person's life, 968 00:37:10,437 --> 00:37:12,396 including managing all of their assets. 969 00:37:12,397 --> 00:37:14,106 It's like what happened to Britney Spears. 970 00:37:14,107 --> 00:37:15,858 - "Manage their assets"-- 971 00:37:15,859 --> 00:37:17,359 rich person speak for controlling 972 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,111 someone else's money. - [chuckles] 973 00:37:19,112 --> 00:37:22,948 Yes, and money makes people do crazy things. 974 00:37:22,949 --> 00:37:25,951 - Like poison their family member's water 975 00:37:25,952 --> 00:37:27,870 with a chemical cocktail so potent 976 00:37:27,871 --> 00:37:29,580 it has the potential to permanently damage 977 00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:30,956 the human psyche? 978 00:37:30,957 --> 00:37:33,292 [exhales deeply] 979 00:37:33,293 --> 00:37:36,295 - Yeah, just like that. [chuckles] 980 00:37:36,296 --> 00:37:38,297 - I was supposed to inherit, 981 00:37:38,298 --> 00:37:42,551 but, um, after my break with reality, 982 00:37:42,552 --> 00:37:45,137 my dad cut me off, and my brother got everything. 983 00:37:45,138 --> 00:37:46,680 - What's everything? 984 00:37:46,681 --> 00:37:49,433 - Oh, about, um, $12 million. 985 00:37:49,434 --> 00:37:50,851 - It must have been hard going from that kind of wealth 986 00:37:50,852 --> 00:37:52,895 to nannying. - Oh, no. 987 00:37:52,896 --> 00:37:54,688 No, it was a blessing. 988 00:37:54,689 --> 00:37:58,484 I really think that helping children was my calling. 989 00:37:58,485 --> 00:37:59,902 Mm. 990 00:37:59,903 --> 00:38:01,779 - Once we found the pattern, we started interviewing 991 00:38:01,780 --> 00:38:03,197 some of the families. 992 00:38:03,198 --> 00:38:04,656 A little pressure, and they cracked. 993 00:38:04,657 --> 00:38:05,866 - And with the search warrant, 994 00:38:05,867 --> 00:38:08,035 we found the gun used to kill Bob Medina 995 00:38:08,036 --> 00:38:09,828 in Director Davidson's closet. 996 00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:12,539 - She'd been running her scam for a decade. 997 00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:14,833 Turns out she was Dr. Erickson's therapist 998 00:38:14,834 --> 00:38:16,793 in the last years of his life. 999 00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:19,713 He must have told her about his experiments. 1000 00:38:19,714 --> 00:38:22,925 In exploring his old lab, she'd uncovered 1001 00:38:22,926 --> 00:38:25,302 the tainted water, realized its potential. 1002 00:38:25,303 --> 00:38:28,263 And we had her on murder, fraud, 1003 00:38:28,264 --> 00:38:32,059 elder abuse, kidnapping, attempted murder, poisoning. 1004 00:38:32,060 --> 00:38:35,312 - Miss Davidson, would you like to make a comment? 1005 00:38:35,313 --> 00:38:36,897 You know, this might be your last chance to tell 1006 00:38:36,898 --> 00:38:38,148 your side of the story. 1007 00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:40,067 [tense music] 1008 00:38:40,068 --> 00:38:42,611 Look at all these people watching. 1009 00:38:42,612 --> 00:38:44,696 - The state ordered a full investigation 1010 00:38:44,697 --> 00:38:46,823 into every conservatorship Westview ordered. 1011 00:38:46,824 --> 00:38:48,450 God willing, the victims will get 1012 00:38:48,451 --> 00:38:50,285 their rights and assets back. 1013 00:38:50,286 --> 00:38:52,829 - And Westview itself has been closed for good. 1014 00:38:52,830 --> 00:38:54,915 - But the lawsuits are just starting, 1015 00:38:54,916 --> 00:38:57,668 not to mention the rest of the legal ramifications. 1016 00:38:57,669 --> 00:39:00,170 - I'm glad this is getting so much attention. 1017 00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:04,383 These poor, abused patients can finally get justice. 1018 00:39:04,384 --> 00:39:06,760 - Do you think it could impact your case at all? 1019 00:39:06,761 --> 00:39:09,346 - It certainly gives my defense a fresh coat of paint. 1020 00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:11,849 If the jury won't listen to reason-- 1021 00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:13,892 because I am innocent-- 1022 00:39:13,893 --> 00:39:16,270 perhaps they will listen to the tragic story 1023 00:39:16,271 --> 00:39:19,523 of a simple tradesman falling victim 1024 00:39:19,524 --> 00:39:24,820 to a poisoned environment that chemically affected my psyche. 1025 00:39:24,821 --> 00:39:28,282 - And what did that environment make you do? 1026 00:39:28,283 --> 00:39:30,075 - Who can say? Certainly not me. 1027 00:39:30,076 --> 00:39:33,912 I-- I wasn't in my right mind. 1028 00:39:33,913 --> 00:39:36,164 - Yeah, the, um-- the poisoned water 1029 00:39:36,165 --> 00:39:38,875 was only found in the abandoned psych ward. 1030 00:39:38,876 --> 00:39:41,628 No vending machines left to fill there, right? 1031 00:39:41,629 --> 00:39:45,883 - At this point, I must confess I did go inside 1032 00:39:45,884 --> 00:39:48,719 that abandoned ward back when I was a kid. 1033 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,847 My father's warnings, they didn't scare me away. 1034 00:39:51,848 --> 00:39:55,058 They only made me more desperate to see. 1035 00:39:55,059 --> 00:39:59,771 And whatever lurked inside... 1036 00:39:59,772 --> 00:40:01,773 must have infected me. 1037 00:40:01,774 --> 00:40:04,443 [eerie music] 1038 00:40:04,444 --> 00:40:05,903 - Hm. 1039 00:40:05,904 --> 00:40:08,155 - Glasser is claiming that the presence of those drugs 1040 00:40:08,156 --> 00:40:10,115 would absolve him of any alleged responsibility 1041 00:40:10,116 --> 00:40:11,617 for the murders. 1042 00:40:11,618 --> 00:40:13,243 - There is no way that defense is going to work. 1043 00:40:13,244 --> 00:40:16,331 We have Glasser dead to rights. - Are you sure about that? 1044 00:40:18,458 --> 00:40:19,917 - Yeah. 1045 00:40:19,918 --> 00:40:21,793 Mm-hmm. 1046 00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:24,589 [timpani booming] 1047 00:40:26,966 --> 00:40:29,010 - [clears throat] 1048 00:40:31,512 --> 00:40:33,263 - Hey, hey. Sorry. 1049 00:40:33,264 --> 00:40:36,266 I know we talked about me not recording interviews in here, 1050 00:40:36,267 --> 00:40:40,187 but Rodge mentioned he needed a space with great acoustics. 1051 00:40:40,188 --> 00:40:42,105 And, you know, we're shutting it down. 1052 00:40:42,106 --> 00:40:43,982 We're shutting it down. Shut it-- 1053 00:40:43,983 --> 00:40:46,485 shut it down. - Shutting it down, copy. 1054 00:40:46,486 --> 00:40:47,986 Hi. Sorry. 1055 00:40:47,987 --> 00:40:49,404 She said this was cool. 1056 00:40:49,405 --> 00:40:50,739 You're going to help me get these in the van, right? 1057 00:40:50,740 --> 00:40:53,367 - I'll be right there. 1058 00:40:53,368 --> 00:40:56,119 - Next time, handcuffs and squad cars. 1059 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,330 - Yeah, totally understandable. 1060 00:40:58,331 --> 00:41:00,540 [upbeat music] 1061 00:41:00,541 --> 00:41:02,459 Thanks again for going exclusive with me. 1062 00:41:02,460 --> 00:41:04,670 Seriously, this doc is going to be huge. 1063 00:41:04,671 --> 00:41:06,463 - I hope so. 1064 00:41:06,464 --> 00:41:08,632 You deserve something good after what you've been through. 1065 00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:10,759 How are you holding up? - Oh, I'm-- I'm fine. 1066 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,720 I'm happy to have something to focus on. 1067 00:41:13,721 --> 00:41:15,722 - When I've been through some scary times, 1068 00:41:15,723 --> 00:41:19,643 I have been guilty of using my work as my therapy, 1069 00:41:19,644 --> 00:41:22,354 but if there's ever a time you need someone to talk to-- 1070 00:41:22,355 --> 00:41:24,147 - Thank you. Really. 1071 00:41:24,148 --> 00:41:25,899 But I already have a great therapist, 1072 00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:27,651 one with zero history at Westview. 1073 00:41:27,652 --> 00:41:30,821 - Excellent. 1074 00:41:30,822 --> 00:41:32,614 You know, there's still something I can't figure out. 1075 00:41:32,615 --> 00:41:35,575 How did you know that Bob the PI 1076 00:41:35,576 --> 00:41:37,452 was working for Caroline McGrath. 1077 00:41:37,453 --> 00:41:40,789 - Oh, Bob told me while we were stuck in the lab. 1078 00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:43,458 He got chatty once he opened up. 1079 00:41:43,459 --> 00:41:44,876 I have that effect on people. 1080 00:41:44,877 --> 00:41:47,045 ♪ ♪ 1081 00:41:47,046 --> 00:41:49,631 - We had to come back because our job isn't finished. 1082 00:41:49,632 --> 00:41:51,258 This hospital has housed killers, 1083 00:41:51,259 --> 00:41:54,219 evil experiments, and perhaps the supernatural. 1084 00:41:54,220 --> 00:41:56,471 - Our job as investigators is to collect 1085 00:41:56,472 --> 00:41:59,224 and present questions and possibilities. 1086 00:41:59,225 --> 00:42:03,019 Interpretation, however, solely belongs with you. 1087 00:42:03,020 --> 00:42:05,230 - Did Westview really-- 1088 00:42:05,231 --> 00:42:08,233 [eerie voice whispering]] 1089 00:42:08,234 --> 00:42:11,069 [flashlights buzzing] 1090 00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:13,613 - Should we check that out? 1091 00:42:13,614 --> 00:42:15,741 - I might be good. 1092 00:42:15,742 --> 00:42:17,701 - You know what? Me too. 1093 00:42:17,702 --> 00:42:19,953 [eerie music] 1094 00:42:19,954 --> 00:42:22,247 - Whoo! 1095 00:42:22,248 --> 00:42:23,040 - Oh, God! - [screams] 1096 00:42:26,127 --> 00:42:29,129 [upbeat music] 1097 00:42:29,130 --> 00:42:36,179 ♪ ♪ 1098 00:42:59,118 --> 00:43:00,078 - Damn it.